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Recalling a time when the cabinet industry was less transparent.

Note:  Since posting this blog in 2011 many of the Masterbrands cabinet lines have switched from 3/8″ sides to half inch sides. Possibly due to better consumer awareness. Instead of removing or editing the blog I am keeping it posted as it was to mark the time and place our industry was at in early 2011. We also have three more recent bogs below that discus similar topics:

https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/kitchen-cabinet-ratings-2017-reviews-top-selling-cabinet-lines/

https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/2015-popular-kitchen-cabinetry-brand-comparison/

https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/what-cabinet-line-is-the-best/

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Here is the original blog

Kitchen cabinet buyers need reputable, professional assistance for many reasons including safety (see link: https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/is-your-kitchen-designer-going-to-kill-you/ ), good design, and . . . there’s probably no less blunt way to say this. . . to avoid being ripped off.

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For example, many cabinet companies sell the same product for different prices by having multiple cabinet line names.  Even in the same cabinet line, exact same door styles and finishes will have different names at different locations. In 2004 Consumer Reports was completely duped — publishing cabinet reviews in which they compared cabinets that were actually the same product and reviewed them differently.  Ikea duped them as well – – garnering top ratings despite durability and construction flaws that take only a few years to become problems.

Jim Bishop off white

Here are some examples of advice Main Line Kitchen Design professionals share with our customers:

 

Frameless cabinets are much less durable than framed cabinets. Frameless or European Cabinetry can definitely look sleeker and are better suited to the most modern door styles because of of this, but even the most expensive frameless lines such as Poggenpohl are nowhere near as durable as any well made framed cabinetry.

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The worst way to make a framed cabinet is with 3/8″ sides and backs. Quality framed cabinetry has 1/2 or 3/4″ sides and backs with solid wood hanging rails.  Watch out for Masterbrands — They are the largest cabinet conglomerate in the US and produce most of their cabinetry with the less durable 3/8″ sides and backs. Many home builders including Toll Brothers use these type lines because more money goes into the door styles and finishes and very little into the cabinets construction.  These lines include:  Aristocraft, Schrock, Diamond, Yorktowne, and Kemper.

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A cabinet by any other name…. Thomasville, a fine furniture company, sold the right to use their name to Home Depot to sell kitchen cabinetry.  Home Depot’s “Thomasville” cabinets are actually 3/8″  constructed cabinetry with the Thomasville name.  At one point Home Depot actually had Mills Pride their least expensive cabinet line making half of the Thomasville line.

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Thicker plywood sides, solid wood hanging rail, Ibeam or plywood tops, along with dovetail drawers and Blumotion tracks can be had for less. Higher end framed custom cabinets differ in finer finishes and in the availability of custom pieces  —  not construction and durability.  Kraftmaid, Woodmode Brookhaven and Main Line Kitchen Design’s Jim Bishop cabinet lines for example can all provide the same quality construction as higher priced custom alternatives.

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Selecting a Kitchen Designer is just as important as the cabinetry you select. Unfortunately accreditation in the kitchen industry is fairly nebulous.  Going to the most expensive showrooms doesn’t assure you of getting a good designer or one that has your interest at heart.  Architects are also generally less capable designers because they spend so much less time designing kitchens and therefore have so much less experience doing so.

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The best Kitchen Designers explain as much about cabinetry and design to their customers as time allows. When you know what you are buying, and why and what the negative and positive aspects of your design are, you can make an informed decision about what matters to you most, and where you want to spend more and or less.  Kitchen Designers also add NO COST as the design costs are included almost everywhere in the cost of the cabinetry.

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Getting a great kitchen requires one big investment that many customers have a hard time making.  The investment of their own time.  It always surprises my customers when I tell them that we would prefer them to take more rather than less of our time making their decisions.  It is only the customers that invest too little of their own time that are ever unhappy with their selections.

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Call in to our recorded Podcast 2-4 pm Fridays Eastern Standard Time to ask cabinetry and design questions. Have designs ready to email for layout advice. Call 610-500-4071

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Watch our very funny video below to see why you need a kitchen designer.

The Main Line Kitchen Design team wishes everyone a wonderful new year and the best kitchens possible  …… and of course Bon Appetit!

Paul, Ray, Tom, Carol, and Julie

100 Comments

  1. corina pica, October 16, 2016 at 8:13 pm:

    Hello,
    What do you think about Waypoint cabinets? We are planning to remodeling our kitchen!

  2. Raymond, October 11, 2016 at 2:55 pm:

    Quality and Quality Woodstar are brands within Masco, the maker of Kraftmaid, along with Merillat. Is Kraftmaid truly worth the premium one pays over Shenandoah? Is there truly a bang for the buck?

  3. pmcalary, October 11, 2016 at 3:22 am:

    Hi Raymond,
    Kraftmaid is higher end then Shenandoah although both are well made when upgraded to all plywood construction. The others I don’t know but suspect are not nearly as well made.

  4. Raymond, October 10, 2016 at 8:02 pm:

    We have two kitchens (two houses) We just had Shenandoah installed in one of them, which we love. Now it’s time for house #2. Can you please rank the following cabinet lines? Kraftmaid, Shenandoah, Shenandoah Value Series, Quality, Quality Woodstar, Oakcraft. Your response is greatly appreciated.

  5. pmcalary, October 10, 2016 at 12:21 pm:

    Fabuwood is better by far

  6. Matt, October 10, 2016 at 10:26 am:

    I have narrowed my choices to Fabuwood, Wolf Desighner, and J&K cabinets. They all seem to be made the same. Any preferences between the three?

  7. pmcalary, October 5, 2016 at 10:58 am:

    I’d rank them this way top to bottom.
    Kraftmaid
    Legacy Debut
    Diamond
    Make sure though that you are getting prices for all plywood construction for Kraftmaid and Diamond. Legacy Debut only comes that way I believe.

  8. Amy Spear, October 5, 2016 at 10:55 am:

    My Husband and I are in the process of building our home and our contractor has quoted us on Legacy Cabinets the Debut series and we also got a quote from Kraftmaid and Diamond (both from Lowes) they are both within 2k of each and we are not sure which ones to go with. Any suggestions?

  9. pmcalary, September 23, 2016 at 4:08 pm:

    Don’t know them but the Hagerstown custom cabinetry looks nice. Decora, Medallion, or The Hagerstown all upgraded to 1/2″ plywood sides are well made. The Hagerstown and the Medallion I would think would be the most expensive, but if the Hagerstowm was less expensive then the Decora I would probably get them as long as I liked the finis equally or better.

  10. Carolyn, September 23, 2016 at 2:43 pm:

    Have you ever heard of Hagerstown Cabinets out of Pennsylvania? Considering them or Decora Or Medallion.

  11. Alex, September 8, 2016 at 8:13 am:

    Thank you.

  12. pmcalary, September 7, 2016 at 12:35 pm:

    Sorry Alex,
    You are mistaken about what type cabinetry you have. The face of a framed cabinet is made of 1 1/2″ stiles and Rails so the opening into the frame has to be 3″ less than the size of the box. Then there is the thickness of the sides of the drawers and the space needed to slide the drawer in and out without rubbing. That requires at least 1 1/2 to 2″ so the inside of all drawers on all framed cabinets using Blum’s bottom mount Blumotion tracks (the best made in the industry) will be 4 1/2″ to 5″ less than the width of the box. Fabuwood’s are 4 13/16″ less. Kraftmaid and every framed cabinet line will be within the same 4 1/2 to 5 inches. Just a note: Kraftmaid in all plywood construction should be about 40% more than Fabuwood at most dealers so you have some issues with the numbers you are getting.

    This blog is not meant to keep people from getting the help of a good kitchen designer. I would recommend that you continue shopping to find a knowledgeable person that can help you. Kitchens are very complicated and doing one without the help of an experienced kitchen designer invites trouble.
    Best of luck – Paul

  13. Alex, September 7, 2016 at 9:36 am:

    I appreciate your input but I am asking a different question. I am doing new construction in a new home. I do not have frameless nor am I considering frameless cabinets. My current house has framed cabinets, as does 2 of my neighbors, and we only lose 3 inches of space for the interior width of a standard drawer. Yet the fabuwood loses 5 inches in width for each drawer. Why is there such a large difference when they are all framed cabinets? Is this the same with Kraftmaid? I want to say yes to fabuwood, but worry about some of the comments from former customers. I was quoted $30K in Kraftmaid for cabinets only from a big box store, and $26K for fabuwood cabinets and installation of 2 slabs of exotic granite (white Alaska) from a small family run independent design store. I really like the small business that I am working with, but also wonder about how much experience they have based on all the reviews where Main Line and others have clearly stated how important a good installer is. I do believe he has given me a great design. Thank you again for your blog and responses.

  14. pmcalary, September 6, 2016 at 8:01 am:

    Hi Alex,
    What you are noticing is the 1 1/2 inch difference between the width and the height of drawers in framed versus frameless cabinetry. The Fabuwood cabinets and all the better made framed cabinetry have the same size drawer boxes with undermount Blum Blumotion tracks. It is the solid wood 1 1/2″ face frame that makes the opening for drawers smaller for framed cabinets. The face frame is also what makes the cabinet more durable. Door hinges and drawer tracks attached to solid wood and screwing the solid wood frames of each cabinet to the cabinet next to it is what makes the better constructed framed kitchens so much less subject to damage and stress.

    There is no question that frameless cabinetry offers more storage and that it is easier access to that storage. That’s one of the advantages to frameless cabinetry. Another is how much more attractive contemporary and modern slab door styles look using Frameless cabinetry which is why these door styles almost always only come on frameless cabinetry.

    However you may be replacing your cabinets BECAUSE they are frameless if the doors are starting to sag and the hinges and draw track are pulling away from the particleboard box. So you have to choose since you can’t have your cake and eat it too. Framed or Frameless. Here is one of our blogs on the difference:
    https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/2015-popular-kitchen-cabinetry-brand-comparison/

  15. Alex, September 6, 2016 at 12:28 am:

    I received several quotes for kitchen designs, and am favoring the Fabuwood from an independent designer (thanks to your positive reinforcement of Fabuwood). However, I have noticed that the interior dimension of the drawers are 5 inches smaller than the exterior measurement. The Fabuwood drawers are framed and side mounted. My designer says that the 5 inch difference is standard. Is this correct? I believe that losing 5 inches of width on each drawer is unacceptable. Both my current kitchen drawers, and my neighbor’s drawers are only 3 inches less in dimension (they are probably custom cabinets). Does Fabuwood offer undermount? Would that get me more width? (BTW, in my 34.5 height cabinet with external dimensions of 7 inch height drawer and 2-11 in height drawers, their vertical clearance is approx 3 in top drawer, and approx 7 in for the 2 lower drawers. I find this appalling as well. I have not measured the Kraftmaid cabinets that were quoted to me yet. Any advice for me?

  16. pmcalary, September 4, 2016 at 8:34 pm:

    Hi Nicolette,
    The Merillat Masterpiece cabinetry is constructed acceptably in my opinion. It just isn’t a great deal for the money. A 3/8″ plywood back is OK just not great. As far as the doors lining up- they just need adjustment and any cabinet display could have that problem. In one of our display cabinets I have been meaning to adjust a drawer front for a month and still haven’t gotten around to it. All these cabinet companies have 6 way adjustable hinges and drawers with some minor exceptions. Because of your water damage you have the opportunity to fix all the design problems in your kitchen. Generally that is where your concerns should lay and for most people almost never are. Good kitchen design is usually only perceived by good kitchen designers. For example the vast majority of our customers mistakenly think that their layout can’t be improved. It takes a lot of self control to hear for the 10,000th time “well my kitchen layout really can’t be improved so I have to keep things where they are.”

  17. Nicolette, September 4, 2016 at 12:45 pm:

    This is the best source I have found for cabinet information and after reading it, I am convinced that my gut reaction about our kitchen design is correct. We are having to replace a kitchen that was destroyed after a upstairs water pipe ruptured. Our contractor has tried to connect us with a kitchen designer he has worked with before and they are really pushing Merrilat cabinets. When I told them my concerns based on the reviews I have read, both acted as if they had never heard of problems with Merrilat cabinets. I asked about Wood-mode cabinets and was told they are way too expensive and over-priced but the KD and contractor couldn’t tell me why the Merilatt was just as good other than that they have been using them for years….When I looked at the example kitchens in the KD’s showroom, I saw that the cabinet doors didn’t line up straight and some of the inlaid doors for their semi-custom line wouldn’t open well without a significant tug. I know the showroom cabinets get a lot fuse, but if they look bad and the KD doesn’t realize that, I would think that KD is not the person to use. Based on your blog I think its time to find a new KD.
    Again thank-you so much for taking the time to answer questions, educate us consumers and stress why its worth getting a KD you trust…Please keep on doing this… Wish there was another way to thank-you and improve your business, but rest assured you are helping the good KD’s out there improve their businesses.

  18. pmcalary, September 2, 2016 at 10:43 am:

    Hi Loraine,
    Thanks! Plain and Fancy and Bremtown are both top of the line. In fact my extended family owns the company Eagle Associates that are the reps for Plain and Fancy in New England. I don’t know how they compare price wise and that will depend on the dealer that supplies them. But both of those line will certainly be more than Decora wherever you are pricing them. As far as the Decora goes, cabinet lines can always be upgraded to the same construction from a home center as a dealer. That being said, home centers are usually no more then 5% less than dealers for the same cabinet lines. Otherwise dealers couldn’t sell those line successfully. This is even with all the misleading sales promotions that home centers promote. Since designers in general are much better at independent dealers than home centers usually buying special order cabinetry at home centers isn’t in a customers best interest. Of course there are designers and dealers that are the exception to the rule and companies like ours that are actually a little less than home centers in apples to apples comparisons and have great designers.

  19. Lorraine, September 1, 2016 at 10:22 am:

    Your blog is amazing!! have been looking at cabinets on and off for a year! I just discovered bremtown on your site. how much more expensive is their semi custom compared to Decora? Do you know how Bremtown compares to Plain and Fancy? I haven’t priced out P&F as I know they will be very expensive. I have looks at most of the brands mentioned on this blog.. I also heard that dealers carry better lines of Decora than Home Depot, and have many more options. Is this true? thank you!!

  20. pmcalary, August 29, 2016 at 2:03 pm:

    While an MDF panel won’t shrink and might be considered preferable in a painted finish. It really doesn’t matter because all shrinkage will happen the first year when all cabinets are under warranty and any doors that do shrink can be replaced. We usually ask customers to wait a couple of months after they notice shrinkage because half of the doors expand back and then never need to be replaced. If you have central air conditioning, and forced hot air heating this could be slightly more of an issue. Still I don’t use it in deciding which cabinet line to get and both lines you are considering are very well made. Assuming you are upgrading to all plywood construction.

  21. Ella, August 29, 2016 at 1:37 pm:

    Hello, this blog continues to be incredibly helpful to me during the process of narrowing down my cabinetry choice. THANK YOU. We have narrowed down our choices to Kraftmaid (all plywood) and Kingswood Kitchens. We want Shaker painted white. Here is my question: because we are getting painted cabinetry, is it advisable to get an MDF panel? One dealer advised against a plywood panel b/c they have found that humidity changes negatively impact the paint appearance and seams. Would you please advise as to best panel material?

  22. pmcalary, August 28, 2016 at 9:51 am:

    Hi Rob,
    Below is a link to our blog on the subject of why Kraftmaid gets bad reviews. Kraftmaid is a much better constructed cabinet than Echelon. The reviews that cabinet companies get has more to do with the dealer than the cabinet line. Good designers and dealers make designing kitchens and buying cabinetry less frustrating and you spend your money knowingly and wisely. Not getting experienced help almost guarantees that a kitchen renovation costs more, is disorganized, poorly designed, and has surprises you weren’t prepared for. The surprises and unplanned “discoveries” you might see on HGTV are made to be dramatic. A well organized kitchen renovation should run smoothly and result in everyone – contractors, designers, and homeowners all being happy with the outcome.
    Link below
    https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/hard-compare-kitchen-cabinet-brands/

  23. Rob, August 28, 2016 at 8:49 am:

    Great blog! I have quotes for Echelon cabinets and Kraftmaid Vantage line cabinets. Kraftmaid Vantage is sold only through dealers and boosts all plywood construction. We want a painted recessed panel style door. Kraftmaid has many poor reviews in reference to quality control and customer service. What thoughts can you offer? Thanks

  24. pmcalary, August 19, 2016 at 11:23 am:

    Hi Melinda,
    Masterbrands doesn’t show on line how Kemper is made and we don’t carry the line so I know little about it. Not showing how your cabinetry is constructed on line is usually a bad sign. The Fabuwood Prima Doorstyle that we carry would be a better selection I would guess and also cost less.

  25. Melinda, August 19, 2016 at 9:40 am:

    Can you help me find a mid-priced company who makes a door style similar to Snaidero? I’m looking at Kemper’s Purestyle Laminate, White. Using the All Pywood Construction. Can I get your thought, Please

  26. Melinda, August 17, 2016 at 7:22 pm:

    On the Kemper Products, is this the Kemper or Kemper Echo. My brochure show 1/2 Thick I-Beam Braces, 1/2 Thick Sides, Top & Bottoms. Dovetail Drawers and 3/4 Thick Shelving. And, they say they have ” Kemper Cabinetry warrants the original consumer purchaser for as long as they own their home that the Kemper Cabinetry products will be free from defects in material and workmanship under normal use.” If I had the budget, I’d do Snaidero. I want this high gloss look. Kemper has a Laminate that fits the look. Your suggestion would be appreciated.

  27. pmcalary, August 17, 2016 at 9:20 am:

    Starmark just has some nicer finishes than Kraftmaid and a greater ability to customize. If you aren’t using the customization in your design and don’t like one finish better than the other then Kraftmaid is a slightly better constructed cabinet.

  28. Kim, August 16, 2016 at 8:27 pm:

    Hi, I have read your blog many times. Thank you! We are looking for a stained shaker cabinet and have quotes for Schrock (which I already ruled out), Kraftmaid, Decora, and Starmark. All had very similar designs and upgraded to all-plywood.. this is our forever home, is it worth the additional cost for the Starmark (median price quote) over the Kraftmaid? Also where would Wood-Mode fit in with these lines?

    Thanks, Kim

  29. pmcalary, August 12, 2016 at 1:22 pm:

    Hi Jason,
    Product is the same but the help you get from a local designer is usually what gets you a good design.

  30. Jason, August 12, 2016 at 1:09 pm:

    Hello,

    This blog has been a great source of info, so thanks in advance.

    Based on your comments here, I’ve been seeking a 6 Square dealer in our area. Pending that, I see that Cliq Studio is the same.

    Are they actually the same company and product, or some other type of hybrid affiliation?

    It seems like you stand by 6 Square as a good buy for semi-custom quality, but I’d hate to inadvertently wind up with something inferior via Cliq Studio.

    Thanks!

  31. pmcalary, August 12, 2016 at 8:42 am:

    Hi Jennette,
    If you upgrade the Shenandoah and the Starmark to all plywood construction then all three lines meet our criteria for a well made cabinet. Assuming you are getting full overlay doors and so styles being equal, the Starmark will have the nicest finishes by far. However most non kitchen designers can’t tell the difference so the expense isn’t appreciated. Many of our customers pick the less expensive finishes as being the higher priced when we show them samples to compare. The Fabuwood might have a nicer looking finish than the Shenandoah but the Shenandoah will be made out of maple most likely instead of birch and so the stain or paint will be slightly more durable. If you are rough on things in general I might go for the Shenandoah if not I’d save the money and go with the Fabuwood.

  32. Jeannette, August 11, 2016 at 9:50 pm:

    Hello, this is by far the best blog I’ve ever gone thru. Thanks so much for your dedication in continuing to answer for so long. Here’s my question: I have three (3) options to chose from, each quoted by different places. In order, beginning with least expensive, is Fabuwood ($7300), then Shenandoah ($9100) and finally Starmark ($12,800). The prices range significantly, and I’m just wondering what you think of each make… I’m thinking of choosing the Shenandoah, just because it’s mid-point pricing. Would that be a wise choice? I don’t want to regret this decision… I’ve waiting 10 years for my kitchen upgrade and want to look forward to another 10+ years in my new kitchen. TIA, Jeannette

  33. pmcalary, August 10, 2016 at 9:50 am:

    Ultracraft and Luxor are both frameless lines so not a line I would recommend. Birchcraft I have never heard of and they seem like a tiny company with no information on their web site. Whoever you are working with would not be my choice as a designer as they have very different cabinet recommendations then I would and that can be telling.

  34. Ella, August 9, 2016 at 9:22 pm:

    Hello, this is very helpful information. We have begun looking at cabinets and have been shown Ultracraft, Luxor, and Birchcraft. Are you able to shed any light on these brands? Thank you.

  35. pmcalary, August 2, 2016 at 7:13 am:

    They seem like a fine custom cabinet line although they don’t tell you how their cabinetry is constructed on their web site. I would avoid their frameless cabinetry.

  36. Melanie, August 1, 2016 at 7:17 pm:

    Hi, What do you think of Signature Custom Cabinetry? How is the quality? Thanks

  37. pmcalary, August 1, 2016 at 8:39 am:

    Once a cabinet line meets the requirements we believe makes a well made cabinet then cabinet construction becomes a non issue. That level of construction is a minimum of a solid 1 1/2″ x 3/4″ thick face frame, 1/2″ plywood sides, solid wood 3/4″ hanging rail or a 1/2″ plywood back. 3/8″ back is OK but not preferred. With solid wood dovetail drawers and Blumotion tracks and soft close doors if desired. After meeting these construction minimums which many expensive cabinet lines do not, then it is the differences in a cabinet lines finishes and their ability to customize that makes the difference in a cabinet line.

    Some custom cabinet lines have furniture grade finishes and high end semi-custom lines can have beautiful distressed finishes or brushstrokes in their glazes and paints. But most of these distinctive finishes customers can’t even recognize as superior. While Inset and Beaded Inset doors can be recognized as custom cabinetry, the vast majority of customers select full overlay doors.

    The main cabinet lines we carry, Fabuwood, 6 Square, Bishop, Brighten, and Wellsford, we selected because they are all well made cabinets and all also do more customization than other cabinet lines in their price point. This makes them a great value. Which line is best? Well of course the most expensive full custom one Wellsford, Can our customers recognize the difference between Wellsford and the least expensive line we carry Fabuwood? Certainly most can not.

    However add to this that almost all our customers prefer and can recognize a well designed kitchen and that most of the designs we see done by other designers are poor and it becomes obvious that customers should be focusing on finding good kitchen designers first and splitting hairs on cabinet lines second. As long as the cabinets they are buying meet the minimum construction requirements we mentioned.

    To answer your other question the Bishop frameless line has the best selection and produces the best frameless cabinets we carry. But ALL frameless cabinets don’t meet the minimum requirements of a well made cabinet. So unless you are getting ultra modern door styles and finishes that are only done in frameless cabinetry why get poorly constructed cabinetry. Frameless cabinetry isn’t even less expensive except in Europe where hardwoods aren’t readily available. This is why Europe and Australia began producing frameless cabinetry. Their cabinetry is all particle board and MDF except in their most expensive custom lines.

    The best well constructed framed cabinetry can last hundreds of years while a frameless line is lucky to make it to 25 years without cabinetry sagging delaminating and falling apart. Think IKEA. Do you believe your IKEA furniture will be looking and functioning well 25 years after you assemble it? All frameless kitchen cabinetry gets more use than furniture and is made nearly identically to IKEA kitchen cabinetry and IKEA furniture.

    To sum it up we recommend getting a well made framed kitchen cabinet line and finding a great kitchen designer to help create a space that is as beautiful, proportional and functional as the imagination of that designer can create with your input working together.

  38. Sandra, July 31, 2016 at 11:50 pm:

    Hi,

    If “it’s not that we love Kraftmaid”, do you mind me asking which cabinet company you love the most? Is it one of the companies you carry. Which one of your cabinet company (or other company) is best in making frameless cabinets. Thanks!

  39. pmcalary, July 30, 2016 at 1:13 pm:

    Hi Melanie,
    Zero for three in these cabinet lines, they are all pretty junky. We carry Fabuwood and 6 Square (also sold on line as Clique Studios) both of which are much better made cabinet lines and not much more expensive. There are even cheaper RTA cabinet lines that are better made than Kith, Woodland Cabinetry or Waypoint.

  40. pmcalary, July 30, 2016 at 1:03 pm:

    Lowes carries some well made inexpensive vanities from Bertch

  41. Brian Yorks, July 30, 2016 at 2:34 am:

    I have been looking for a new bathroom vanity and today I thought I was set in an Aristakraft but now I’m not sure it’s just a 36″ vanity with 4 drawers in the right. I also was considering Costco’s Tuscany which appear to be better quality such as 1/2 sides but it was about 50% more exspesnive. The cabinet is going to be in a corner so only one side will be exposed. Would Aristakraft still be a bad way to go? I’ll check out Kraftmaid tomorrow pricing at Home Depot but I suspect it’s till going to be up there in price. Being a bathroom vanity I didn’t want to spend too much. Even such as initially wanting cherry I decided I’d save a few bucks and gibeith birch as the finish I want it wasn’t noticeably different unless you knew what to look for.

  42. Melanie, July 29, 2016 at 6:13 pm:

    Looking at white shaker cabinets. Which is a better quality line, Kith, Woodland Cabinetry or Waypoint?

  43. Pamela Jones, July 28, 2016 at 11:11 am:

    Hello, and thank you – we’ve relied heavily on your blog for cabinet selection. We’ve narrowed it down to 2 for our kitchen: Legacy Debut (Executive build) or Decora Harmony Maple Pleasant. Both have similar box construction. Legacy Debut came in at half the price of Decora. Curious what would be your preference, Legacy or Decora? Also, one question about the backs: Decora has 3/16″ plywood backs on base and wall cabs; Legacy Debut offers 1/8″ plywood back. Neither offers the minimum 1/2″ as you recommend. Can you comment on this? Thank you again.

  44. pmcalary, July 26, 2016 at 7:56 pm:

    While the cabinetry coming from China is improving quickly, especially with the US companies that are having their cabinetry made in China, there is a big difference between the top import lines and the lower lines. FX is a lower line. You spend so much money on a kitchen with appliances, flooring, countertop, instalation etc that building your kitchen around truly the bottom of the cabinetry barrel with FX, Solid Wood Cabinets, Kitchen Cabinet Kings, or even worse spending more money and getting IKEA makes no sense unless you are redoing the kitchen to sell your home. Since most home buyers can’t tell good cabinetry from bad saving any money in that case can make sense. Otherwise poor construction and the rough finishes that get dirty quickly and only save you 20% on cabinets make no sense. Spend an extra $1000 and get better made import cabinetry that will last. It will still cost 50% less that the better made semi Custom US lines.

  45. Jenna, July 26, 2016 at 6:17 pm:

    Hello, we are looking at Fx cabinets, they are from China, very inexpensive, what do you think of this line? Thank you

  46. pmcalary, July 25, 2016 at 4:07 pm:

    Hi Gabriella,
    We sell both lines. Fabuwood is slightly better made because the back is 1/2″ thick but 3/8″ is OK just not the best. Clique Studios (sold by dealers as 6 Square) is about 15% more expensive and they offer many more finishes. For a painted white shaker cabinet the Maple doesn’t matter over the birch so I’d use the Fabuwood. For a stained cabinet I’d use the Clique Studios. The warrantee shouldn’t matter and the reviews are going to be much better not because the CS cabinet is better but because Fabuwood is sold through a lot of small inexperienced dealers. You can’t go wrong with either line as long as you have a good designer and installer. Without those it won’t matter if your cabinetry is well made.

  47. Gabriella, July 25, 2016 at 2:53 pm:

    Hello! We are looking at both Fabuwood and Cliqstudios for white painted cabinets. Fabuwood uses birch and Cliq has maple doors. Fabuwood has 1/2 inch backs but Cliq uses 3/8 inch. What is your opinion between the two? Are they both good options or is one much better in terms of quality? Cliq offers a longer warranty and they actually received more positive reviews online than Fabuwood. Thanks!

  48. pmcalary, July 24, 2016 at 12:30 pm:

    It’s not that we love Kraftmaid it’s just that they are a quality cabinet line if upgraded to all plywood construction and available everywhere so that they come up a lot. There are many, many, well made cabinet lines. For example we carry 6 lines all well made and several are significantly less expensive than Kraftmaid. I read the complaints on your link and they can be explained by the blog below:

    https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/hard-compare-kitchen-cabinet-brands/

    As a kitchen designer we hear complaints about things that customers should expect if they were knowledgeable about the product they purchased. Maple cabinets with grey spots, these are called mineral streaks and should be expected. Small holes in cherry cabinets called pits that are the common. Stripes on doors because the customer paid extra for the center panel to be solid wood instead of a less expensive veneer. And we hear what customer’s “feel” such as “I feel that I’m paying to not have any of these issues”. Buying a kitchen is like buying dozens of pieces of custom furniture. You are not buying a toaster. It is the kitchen designers job to prepare a customer for what they should expect and sadly many of us don’t and even when we do many customers just don’t listen.

  49. Sandra, July 23, 2016 at 9:23 pm:

    Hi,

    This is a fantastic blog. I learned a lot about the cabinetry companies. Thanks for the questions and answers. I am in the process of building a new home and looking for a good quality and value semi-custom cabinetry company. Of course, it is not easy, there are so many out there. I looked through all the posts here. I got an impression that you really like Kraftmaid cabinetry. So, at one point, I said Kraftmaid is the one for me based on your comments. But, I just did some googling, came across this website http://kraftmaid.pissedconsumer.com/. There are 112 complaints about them, more than any other cabinetry companies. It is alarming. Now, I have to go back to the drawing board. Any other recommendation? Thanks!

  50. pmcalary, July 21, 2016 at 3:38 pm:

    Hi Steve,
    Never heard of Woodland and their we site is pretty rough and doesn’t say how the cabinets are made which I think is a bad sign. There are so many well made lines that are less than Bremtown that unless you have an almost unlimited budget I wouldn’t be in a line that was so elegant as well as expensive. The style and color of the cabinets is important in determining what line is the best fit for you. For example, if you are getting a full overlay solid color painted door style then any custom cabinet line makes little sense. The fine finishes or inset doors that make Bremtown stand out above the rest you are not selecting in that case, so why pay extra for your cabinets?

    I try to say it in every response that the design itself is what matters most and since most of the designs we see are poor I’d fix the design first with the help of a good designer before splurging on cabinetry or professional appliances. If you were working with a great designer they would be able to steer you towards the product that fits your needs best and they would also be able to answer any and all questions. That is in fact the defining characteristic of a good designer.

  51. Steve, July 21, 2016 at 1:56 pm:

    Hello, great blog. Just wondering if you heard of woodland semi custom cabinetry? If so, how would you compare to Bremtown. Lastly, is the Bremtown 700 series worth the additional cost?

  52. pmcalary, July 20, 2016 at 1:43 pm:

    Hi Pier,
    There are upgrades in most cabinet lines. And yes Kraftmaid is a better cabinet than Kemper. Upgraded Kemper has a 3/8″ plywood back which is OK but Kraftmaid’s upgraded all plywood construction is better. The Kraftmaid cabinet back has a 3/4″ solid wood hanging rail.

  53. Pier L, July 20, 2016 at 10:59 am:

    I have quite a disparity in quotes from the Kemper line. Are there levels, i.e. Good, Better, Best within the Kemper line? And is Kraftmaid a better choice over Kemper?
    Thanks in advance!

  54. pmcalary, July 17, 2016 at 11:34 am:

    If you upgrade just to all plywood construction Candlelight is a better made cabinet since the back panel is 1/2″ plywood vs Fieldstone’s very poor 1/4″ back panel. However Fieldstone has the option to upgrade to a 3/4″ back panel. You MUST do this if you decide on Fieldstone. I think a 1/2″ panel is sufficient and both cabinet lines have nice finishes so I would get the cabinet that the kitchen designer recommends since he or she will have experience working with both companies. I have sold Fieldstone and they were fine to work with but nothing special. I know less about Candlelight although the company has a good reputation in the industry.

  55. MAKitchen, July 17, 2016 at 10:25 am:

    Considering candlelight vs fieldstone for large new construction kitchen – white painted finish, inset shaker, thoughts please?

  56. pmcalary, July 15, 2016 at 11:08 am:

    Sorry I didn’t see this post. Brighton is the best of this bunch construction wise. We just started carrying their product so I don’t have a lot of experience with it but we selected it because it was better made than the other lines you mention.

  57. pmcalary, July 12, 2016 at 12:13 pm:

    We carry Fabuwood so we like it as a product. I don’t know Kabinart well but the product looks equally well made on line. Of course a good design is the most important thing especially if you are selecting from 2 well made lines.

  58. Kevin M., July 12, 2016 at 11:29 am:

    Thanks for a great blog and sound advice. We’re redoing our kitchen in NJ and we’ve got an estimate for Kabinart from a dealer that also sells Fabuwood. I skimmed the blog but didnt see Kabinart mentioned. Do you have an opinion? I’ve seen some negative reviews, esp about customer service, damages upon delivery, and plastic hinge inserts. Any professional insights you can offer would be much appreciated.
    Thanks,
    Kevin

  59. pmcalary, July 7, 2016 at 3:47 pm:

    The Bishop Framed line and Decora are the better cabinets. As always upgrade the cabinetry to all plywood construction and soft close drawers.

  60. Paul, July 7, 2016 at 2:02 pm:

    Have gotten estimates on Norcraft, Bishop and Decora and Diamond. Have seen some reviews on all but Norcraft. Of these, does any one stand above the rest?

  61. pmcalary, June 26, 2016 at 10:52 am:

    Hi Eva,
    We carry Fabuwood which is an inexpensive line with quality construction that is Carb Compliant. Always get Fabuwood cabinetry from a dealer and assembled in the factory. Or Cliq Studios sells Carb compliant cabinetry on line that is well made and reasonable. Dealers like ourselves sell the same line under the name 6 Square.

  62. Eva, June 23, 2016 at 7:22 pm:

    Great response, thank you. Another question, please. We are looking to purchase good value cabinets, environmentally friendly if possible (low to no VOCs. Do you have any thoughts on that (i.e., was looking at PureBond Plywood but can’t find cabinet mfrs. that use this in Phoenix area. What should we be looking for? We will be focusing on many of the recommendations in your blog (upgraded plywood, non-frameless, etc.).

  63. pmcalary, June 23, 2016 at 9:54 am:

    Hi Eva,
    I love this question because the answer makes me crazy. Here goes:

    Kitchen design and cabinetry is complicated. And because customers are always looking to price compare and steal the design work done by kitchen designers we intentionally make it very confusing to shop for cabinets. So the same cabinet companies have different names at different locations and even in the same cabinet line like Kraftmaid doors and finishes have different names at different locations.

    Consumer Reports and other review sites don’t ask professionals to rate cabinets they ask consumers and the reviews are written by staff reporters that know nothing about cabinets. Customers that complain about a cabinet line are often complaining about something that they should have expected in the style and finish they picked but they weren’t educated as to what to expect from their designer. Here are the two most extreme examples:

    IKEA is constantly reviewed favorably by everyone except professionals here’s why: IKEA cabinets are inexpensive, easy to purchase, customer expectations are low and the finishes that IKEA carries are simple and don’t vary much. So if the instructions are not frustrating people are happy that they got a new kitchen that initially looks good. No one follows up 20 years later and sees the kitchen that is falling apart and even if they did they would need to compare it to the same kitchen in a better made product to understand what the difference in longevity is. As a professional I see that kitchen 5, 10, 15, and 20 years later when I am called upon to replace it.

    Kraftmaid (which we don’t carry but is a perfect example) consistently gets bad or mediocre reviews by consumers. This is because customer expectations are much higher and they are purchasing the more expensive cabinet at the home center or showroom they are working with. The types of wood they are buying and the properties of the finishes can be inconsistent because they are supposed to be. And the complexity the kitchens that can be designed in a high end semi-custom line can make mistakes easy. Since Home Centers like Lowes and The Home Depot carry Kraftmaid and their designers are less experienced in general and because the environment in a home center is loud, confusing, and interruption filled, problems are guaranteed. Also home center customers are cheap that’s why they are shopping at the home center in the first place so they don’t pay for needed upgrades and may not even be told that they should be getting them. This is a recipe for consumer dissatisfaction.

    10 years ago, at the same time that IKEA was rated tops and Krafmaid much lower by homeowners and consumer reports Kraftmaid was on a 7 year winning streak for the best value in cabinetry as rated by professionals. Those same professionals would agree for the most part that IKEA was just junk.

    Today Kraftmaid is less outstanding a cabinet line but still well made and still subject to the same review issues.

    The Warranty on a cabinet line actually doesn’t mean that much as some well made cabinet lines have the industry standard 5 year warranty and IKEA has a 15. A lifetime Warranty doesn’t mean much either as all are limited lifetime warranties, and actually don’t cover that much, and some terribly made cabinets offer limited lifetime warranties. The reputation of the dealer you work with is the most important thing to check out.

    To find a kitchen designer 10 years experience should be a minimum requirement. And since it is a complex profession I think a bright well educated person beats anyone with design degrees or certification. Some of the best kitchen designers I have met are on second careers or never studied design in college. However they all are very bright people with great spacial relations skills and a willingness to learn and to teach. Educating customers about what to value and expect is the sign of a great designer. If you learn a lot from a designer in a short time speaking with them then that is a great indicator. And if they tell you a few ways you can save money, that shows that they also are looking after your best interests.

    Hope all that helps.
    Paul

  64. Eva, June 23, 2016 at 12:16 am:

    I have a few questions. What criteria should I look for when selecting a designer? When I look at kitchen cabinet reviews I find that the reviews are all over the place. For instance, you like KraftMaid; however, reviews are not consistent at all and even poor in many instances. How do we know what reviews should be discounted or believed? I looked at QualityCabinets today. I determined that I won’t buy them; however, I saw that they only have a 2-year warranty. How important is the warranty and what would constitute a reasonable warranty?

  65. pmcalary, June 21, 2016 at 5:25 pm:

    Ikea cabinets are considered overpriced junk by any knowledgeable kitchen designer or contractor. There are many Asian lines and other framed RTA lines that are less expensive and better made. 10 years ago if you had no money they were your only choice. Now they really only make sense if you definitely want a frameless less durable cabinet in a modern style and don’t need it to last past 15 years.

  66. Valerie, June 21, 2016 at 5:19 pm:

    Hi What do you think about using IKEA boxes and pairing them with all wood doors? Some companies, like SemiHandmade, make wood doors that are an exact fit on IKEA boxes.

  67. kmdc, June 19, 2016 at 1:36 pm:

    Hi- new construction large kitchen in MA- do not plan on selling. Feedback on choosing btw the following semi-customs: (1) omega dynasty, (2) fieldstone, (3) Brighton? All inset, simple shaker doors, white paint finish? Top priorities are durability of construction/function, finish durability. And should these be similar or differently ranked price points? Thanks!

  68. pmcalary, June 18, 2016 at 8:50 am:

    All good choices. Upgrade all three to an all plywood box. Decora and Kraftmaid are better made and less expensive and Medallion has nicer finishes. Personally, I would select the style and finish I liked best in either the Decora or the Kraftmaid line, as they are a better value. Of course the design itself is most important of all and most designs we see are unprofessional.

    Shop for a great kitchen designer and not a cabinet line and you will get the best kitchen. Focusing on the cabinets you are buying, and even asking this question on our blog can mean that a customer doesn’t trust the advice that their designer is giving them. This is a very bad sign and can signal that the design that they are contemplating is poor because their kitchen designer isn’t inspiring confidence.

    Another bad sign is if you or your contractor came up with the design. It takes many years to become even a competent kitchen designer, so the efforts of non kitchen designers will always look amateurish to any good professional.

  69. Alex Zaroulis, June 17, 2016 at 10:29 pm:

    Hi
    Considering Decora vs Kraftmaid vs Medallion. What would you choose?

  70. pmcalary, June 16, 2016 at 4:26 pm:

    Both Decora and Kraftmaid are well made cabinet lines sold at Home Depot. However, often the most important thing needed to get a great kitchen is not at a home center. And that’s a great kitchen designer. While there definitely are some very good designers working for both Lowes and The Home Depot, they are the exception to the rule.

    Also Home centers place restrictions on designers that make their jobs more difficult to do well. For example:

    Home centers don’t want their designers moving load bearing walls or moving doorways and windows. The environment inside a home center can be distracting with many interruptions and noises. And many home centers won’t even allow their designer to measure and see the kitchen they are working on. These issues make it very difficult for even a good kitchen designer to be effective working in a home center.

    Because of these chalanges, working as a kitchen designer at a home center can be a trial by fire. I have found that some of the best kitchen designers spent the early part of their careers learning in that crazy home center environment before they were able to move on to more prestigious jobs in the private showroom world.

  71. Jennifer, June 16, 2016 at 3:56 pm:

    Love my Home Depot Decora Cabinets

  72. pmcalary, June 8, 2016 at 1:31 pm:

    Yikes! I would never get thremafoil cabinets for a kitchen. They are out of fashion and junk quite frankly. Kemper is also an inferior line. I don’t know Byler but the first designer I would stay away from.
    Here is a blog that relates to this topic:

    https://www.mainlinekitchendesign.com/general/much-return-get-new-kitchen-investment/

  73. Paula, June 8, 2016 at 1:08 pm:

    So glad I found this thread! I am looking to remodel an outdated kitchen in an older home with shaker style white cabinets. The kitchen designers I have talked to have suggested Kraftmade thermofoil cabinets and Kemper Purestyle cabinets. Another is suggesting cabinets made locally by Byler. Any opinions on thermofoil or Purestyle? I have read concerning things about both.

  74. pmcalary, June 8, 2016 at 9:20 am:

    Wellborn is a way more expensive and better cabinet.

  75. sdowling, June 8, 2016 at 8:45 am:

    We are remodeling an old ranch style house. Looking at cabinets at Lowes Shenendoah vs. Wellborn Cabinets. I don’t have a price yet from Wellborn (designer there working on it) but am wondering if they are more expensive than the Lowes cabinets? Which brand is better? We did opt for all plywood construction from Lowes but the price is still so high!!

  76. pmcalary, June 7, 2016 at 6:52 pm:

    Mouser looks slightly better constructed than Starmark but upgraded both will be good lines. Starmark is known for their finishes. Mouser I know less well.

  77. pmcalary, June 7, 2016 at 4:50 pm:

    Bremtown will be much more expensive then Kraftmaid. They are great cabinets but in a painted shaker cabinet there won’t be much of a noticeable difference, unless you got inset cabinetry.

  78. Laura Clougherty, June 7, 2016 at 3:02 pm:

    Hi – We are putting together plans to renovate a small beach-front condo in Florida. I am working with a women over the phone (I live in Boston) on a kitchen design. She will price out both Kraftmaid and Bremtown for the job. I see you sell Bremtown. They look beautiful, but I am not able to find them in the Boston area. What are your thoughts — looking at shaker white style.

  79. aphome, May 28, 2016 at 8:49 pm:

    Do you have an insight into Mouser Cabinets (http://mousercabinetry.com/)? We are considering Mouser vs. Starmark Cabinetry.

  80. pmcalary, May 26, 2016 at 8:36 am:

    Wellborn is a high end Semi Custom line that from what I see at trade shows has some very nice finishes and is well constructed. It could be 60% more than the cost of Wolf. Wolf is made in China and assembled in upstate PA. I like it better than the Aristocraft that Wolf also sells but it is not one of the better made Chinese/American assembled lines. Lots of similar lines at the same or better price points and also better made. Fabuwood would be one that we sell. Solid Wood cabinets are even better made than Wolf, but the designers there pretty much guarantee you get a badly designed kitchen.

    Don’t underestimate the most important thing needed to get a good kitchen at a good price. A good designer! And if you think you don’t need a designer then your over confidence will almost certainly get you a poorly designed over-priced kitchen.

  81. lisa, May 26, 2016 at 8:07 am:

    Another couple brands that would like to question are wellborn and wolf? Do you have any idea about either and price point comparison? Have seen and look nice but have not priced out. Have seen JSI and it is a chinese made cabinet. Builder uses and customizes it all to look better. Quality is decent with few things to question with rollouts and smoothness. Look very nice with some glazing. Trying to compare the three mentioned and price. Thanks.

  82. pmcalary, May 19, 2016 at 9:52 am:

    Looked them up on line and Kith is pretty much junk and JSI tells you nothing about how the cabinetry is made that I can find, so that is troubling.In this price point Fabuwood is one of the best lines out there, which is why we carry it.

  83. lisa, May 19, 2016 at 9:08 am:

    Hi. I have seen a few post here about JSI and Kith cabinetry a while back. You hadn’t heard much about either line and was wondering if you know anything more since prior posts. Thanks. To the people, “Amy” and others that asked, have you selected Kith or found out anything more. Thanks…..very helpful blog!!!!

  84. pmcalary, May 16, 2016 at 4:18 pm:

    If you are working with a Home Depot designer why not Kraftmaid. It should be a similar price and it is a better cabinet.

  85. Joe in Minnesota, May 16, 2016 at 4:06 pm:

    Wow, am I confused. We almost went with Thomasville at Home Depot but when we looked at reviews on the internet it was discouraging. We are operating on a budget but can afford mid range to higher end cabinets. Your site is awesome in regards to helpful info but now we are so confused we don’t know who to trust or not as far as cabinets go. Any help on cabinet brand references What brands do we look at with some confidence that we are going to be happy.

  86. pmcalary, May 15, 2016 at 8:40 am:

    Brookhaven is a better cabinet and Woodmode is a better company. There aren’t any other options? How about a compromise cabinet line like Kraftmaid? Kraftmaid is made identically to Brookhaven. The Kraftmaid Plant actually made 1/2 of the Brookhaven line at one point, I’m not sure if they still do but the cabinetry is close to the same animal and less expensive. Always upgrade to plywood sides or all plywood construction at least on the exposed cabinetry and on the wall cabinets. It’s simplier to do it on all of them to avoid mistakes.

  87. Ronnie Ward, May 14, 2016 at 9:50 pm:

    I am considering Omega Dynasty and Brookhaven by Woodmode for a large, new home project. The price for Omega is better, but after reading reviews on different sites, I’m worried about making a wrong choice. Since so much is at stake, do you have any advice? Should i risk going with Omega, or spend a lot more money for Brookhaven?

  88. pmcalary, May 1, 2016 at 3:03 pm:

    Both lines look like they are US made for the most part but these inexpensive lines all are beginning to use Chinese made doors for some styles. American Woodmark is the better made cabinet especially if you upgrade to all plywood construction. However in inexpensive cabinet lines I think that the Asian made and US assembled cabinetry is less expensive and superior in quality. A company like Clique Studios is less expensive sold on line everywhere in the US and better made than both these lines and the on line designers actually seem to be better than the ones you now find at home centers. Of course having a local designer measure your kitchen and help you select a design and cabinet line is the best option but in the lower priced lines the designers are often inexperienced.

  89. pmcalary, May 1, 2016 at 2:53 pm:

    I don’t know much about these lines. I tried looking up the first two and found that Rona appears to be a Canadian retail company that sells cabinets. They look less qualified than Lowes and Home Depot at first glance. Westwood looks like a tiny custom cabinet manufacturer and so I know nothing about them. They could be great but I have no way of knowing, and their web site is little help. Euro-rite from the name tells me that these are European frameless cabinets. I prefer framed cabinets to less durable frameless construction so they wouldn’t be my pick. Are you in Canada? is that the reason for all the Canadian lines. Canada is not known for making mass produced framed cabinetry economically. They have some fine custom cabinet companies but most larger Canadian cabinet manufacturers specialize in frameless cabinetry.

  90. Sandra McKenzei, May 1, 2016 at 1:41 pm:

    What is your opinion on Rona Cabinets, Westwood or Euro-rite. They are canadian made.

  91. Amy, April 30, 2016 at 11:58 pm:

    Hi, considering Kith cabinets versus American wood mark. Which would be more durable? And are both made in the us?

  92. pmcalary, April 30, 2016 at 9:59 am:

    Kabinart is a better constructed cabinet. Both cabinet lines are reasonably priced and better made than some more expensive cabinet lines, but the I beam all plywood construction of the Kabinart line gives it the edge. If you don’t plan on living in your home for decades, then since both lines are fine, I’d get the door style and finish I liked best and not give any weight to the better construction.

  93. Wendy, April 29, 2016 at 6:14 pm:

    We are looking at Kabinart vs. Waypoint cabinets. Any comments?

  94. pmcalary, April 25, 2016 at 8:26 am:

    Hi Sheri,
    They are ready to assemble or built in the US but I’m sure made in Asia. Not that that is a bad thing. It is why they are so inexpensive. They look comparable to the brand Solid Wood Cabinets. Pretty well made but very inexpensive cabinetry probably with less selection and less attractive finishes. All that being said, most people can’t tell the differences between a good finish and a bad one. If you are selling your home in the next 5 to 10 years, then probably a fine pick on a budget. If you are in for the duration spending 20% more on cabinetry might get you a nicer finish and also a better designer to work with. Who helps you designing your kitchen and orders it can be the difference between money well spent and money wasted.

  95. Sheri Saldivar, April 24, 2016 at 10:35 pm:

    What do you think of cabinets.com Deerfield? They say they are made in the US…anything I should watch out for?

  96. Kim, April 13, 2016 at 5:10 pm:

    Thank you for the response. I noticed you are in PA. We are building east of Scranton PA. How far are you located from there and would your company come out to Hawley PA?

  97. pmcalary, April 13, 2016 at 1:26 pm:

    As long as the Diamond cabinets are upgraded to 1/2″ Plywood sides you should be fine. Wellborn will be more expensive but is a very good cabinet line.

  98. Kim, April 13, 2016 at 12:50 pm:

    We are building a home and are considering cabinetry. We know of someone who is a Diamond distributor so they would not be coming from Lowes and they have an in house design person. Not sure if these cabinets will be the same quality as Lowes. Also considering Wellborn. Your thoughts on these brands would be appreciated.
    Thanks for your time.

  99. pmcalary, April 4, 2016 at 11:15 am:

    In General the more expensive semi custom and custom cabinet lines will be made in the US but as doors become better made and less expensive even some expensive lines will outsource some mitered doors from Asia. Less expensive cabinetry made 100% in the US is inferior to the less expensive cabinetry assembled in the US but with parts made in China.

  100. Diane, April 4, 2016 at 10:16 am:

    How can a girl find out which kitchen cabinets are truly made in America? As in, all the plywood box parts and doors are american sourced and American processed and finished followed with American assembly. This should not be esoteric information, yet I am finding it oddly difficult to discern. Perhaps because so many of the parts are asian processed and currently in disfavor with consumers, hence hiding the info? I would love a nice spread sheet with parts & assembly origins for cabinets.

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